#308: Making a Stand

[gobias23]

I thought this was a good episode, but I don't think it should be top-ranked by users.

I hope you guys aren't givint it bad votes just to bring down it's score, because if it really isn't the top-rated episode, it will go down eventually. I you aren't sorry for the "accusation".

On a side note, I think I'm guilty of having done this. I also vote haphazardly and click way too fast, and as a result, I wish I could re-do them. But they are all so stacked together, if you want your favorite shows to move at all, you have to vote in polarities. Since everything has a value between 3 and 5, I think the results should be adjusted so that 3 = 0, so that they aren't all squished together.

[i need to post]

I've come to accept the fact that these last 3 episodes have aired in order as 306 switching places with 307 or 307 with 308 just leaves too much of a glaring mistake in the continuity of the show. Still, the fact remains that they made no mention of the plug removal in last night's episode, which I don't understand because it's obviously a big enough subplot to give mention to especially when you're putting an end to it. He's had those things since the second episode of the season. Not saying we needed to see him remove them, just work a couple lines about removing them into the episode.

And while I'm on the topic, there have been episodes that have aired out of order. For example, Visiting Ours and Charity Drive were aired in reverse order. I just want to know why it's occasionally done.

[i need to post]

I thought this was a good episode, but I don't think it should be top-ranked by users.

I hope you guys aren't givint it bad votes just to bring down it's score, because if it really isn't the top-rated episode, it will go down eventually. I you aren't sorry for the "accusation".

On a side note, I think I'm guilty of having done this. I also vote haphazardly and click way too fast, and as a result, I wish I could re-do them. But they are all so stacked together, if you want your favorite shows to move at all, you have to vote in polarities. Since everything has a value between 3 and 5, I think the results should be adjusted so that 3 = 0, so that they aren't all squished together.

I've rated every season 3 episode a 1 and every season 1 episode a 5 because I hate seeing almost every season 3 episode above the collective classic that is season 1.

Trying to singlehandedly balance it out. I'm a hero.

[gobias23]

I really hated the whole music changing thing, Ron better calm down.

I thought Ron was great. He didn't overnarrate like he did in previous episodes this season. I don't get why Ron needs to "calm down." He was relatively calm.

Did anyone watch this with any newbie AD watchies?

Well, Dave, a buddy of mine, was over last night and had never seen a single episode. I think he laughed harder than I did. So to all those out there that haven't give this show a chance, I give it the "Dave Dunn seal of approval", take the plunge. On with the show!

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That's good to hear. I've run out of people I haven't tried to force the show upon, so I can't really get any newbies. Most people I've forced it on find the new episodes too weird, even if they loved Season One. And if the show moves to ABC, I think it must, must go back to the more realistic style of Season One, or it will not last long on network TV. If it goes to Showtime, anything goes. And while both styles have provided lots of good episodes, I guess I'm in the camp that prefers the calmer, realistic, cinema verite mockumentary style.

Last night's episode I think fit into that more as in it was back to being character driven. Sure, it had some limbs getting cut off and such...but that's normal to me! The Gob-Michael-George Sr. dynamics are great, and all three actors are just perfect. I loved it when Gob celebrates after teaching his dad a lesson. It was just the third time this year something in AD has had an emotional resonance to back up its hilarity, season One did it almost every episode, Season Two somewhat less frequently. (The other two so far were GM talking about his "stupid girl" problem to Michael, and GM telling Michael Rita was retarded)

EDIT: I've just now realized the irony of Michael saying in the start of 302 (the "On the Previous AD") that he didn't have a girl let alone a stupid one. Yup, this show rules.

[ACR]

I was so happy that Gob's "cirsumvent" returned - one of my favourite jokes from S2 and the whole "OC"- "don't call it that" - one of my favourite jokes from S3.

[littlesquish89]

I thought this was a good episode, but I don't think it should be top-ranked by users.

I hope you guys aren't givint it bad votes just to bring down it's score, because if it really isn't the top-rated episode, it will go down eventually. I you aren't sorry for the "accusation".

On a side note, I think I'm guilty of having done this. I also vote haphazardly and click way too fast, and as a result, I wish I could re-do them. But they are all so stacked together, if you want your favorite shows to move at all, you have to vote in polarities. Since everything has a value between 3 and 5, I think the results should be adjusted so that 3 = 0, so that they aren't all squished together.

I've rated every season 3 episode a 1 and every season 1 episode a 5 because I hate seeing almost every season 3 episode above the collective classic that is season 1.

Trying to singlehandedly balance it out. I'm a hero.

Narrator: He wasn't.

[Hop on]

the soundtrack was off for the first half of the show

I noticed that, too. It drove me nuts. I was watching it alone in my room and my family downstairs (because they'll talk during it and ruin it for me) and we were talking during the commercials and I mentioned the sound was off from the video. So when it came back on it was fine, which made me look dumb for saying it.

Anywho, great episode. I like every episode I see, but this one was definitely better than the newer ones. It had a good feel to it. I liked that every character was in it and contributed to the story nicely. I loved the lessons at the end, and of course the banana stand with GOB and Steve Holt. I especially loved when they both said, "dip it in what?"

I mentioned it somewhere else, but I'm proud so I'll say it again. I got someone to watch last night. It was the first time they watched. They liked it but thought it was a little hard to follow. Hopefully I can get them to keep watching.

[DidNothingCancel?]

I tend to think that this season was worse because they were pressured to bring up ratings, and obviously that's a sign that they need to start writing differently (I don't want them to change, but it's what needed to be done, in theory, for them to get better ratings).

However, I also thought season 2 was terrible until I was able to watch all the episodes on DVD at my leisure. It felt rushed to me, but now it feels perfect.

Also, I personally doubt that episodes were out of order. Nothing was out of synch except maybe Tobias' hair storyline, but even that makes sense if you assume (as I believe you were meant to) that he had it removed between episodes.

AD rarely goes over facts that everyone knows, or recovers stories that have been around for several episodes.

Also, I thought the super-religious girl GOB was daing was Steve Holt's mom who we know is religious because of some of Gob's comments in season 2 ("If that one gets pregnant, it stays pregnant. I dated a girl like that back in High School... no I didn't"). I hope we find that one out for sure, though.

[Banana Family]

yea that was super annoying. i thought they were doing it on purpose for a second

[xfoo]

I've rated every season 3 episode a 1 and every season 1 episode a 5 because I hate seeing almost every season 3 episode above the collective classic that is season 1.

Trying to singlehandedly balance it out. I'm a hero.

you're a confound! it's fortunate that the episode ratings are of no consequence what so ever so the damage is minimal.

that reminds me, i think there's A STOOGES PARALLEL, A STOOGES PARALELL, A STOOGES PARALLEL! in this episode. i'll be forced to look it up if no one says anything. that'd make me very cross indeed cause i ... don't want to

[DidNothingCancel?]

Where do you see the parallel?

Remember that in the boy fights video it was only 2 of them fighting...

But I'm not a stooges expert.

[MadeAHugeMistake]

I've come to accept the fact that these last 3 episodes have aired in order as 306 switching places with 307 or 307 with 308 just leaves too much of a glaring mistake in the continuity of the show. Still, the fact remains that they made no mention of the plug removal in last night's episode, which I don't understand because it's obviously a big enough subplot to give mention to especially when you're putting an end to it. He's had those things since the second episode of the season. Not saying we needed to see him remove them, just work a couple lines about removing them into the episode.

And while I'm on the topic, there have been episodes that have aired out of order. For example, Visiting Ours and Charity Drive were aired in reverse order. I just want to know why it's occasionally done.

Thank you.
That's all I'm saying...
...for now.

[i need to post]

I've rated every season 3 episode a 1 and every season 1 episode a 5 because I hate seeing almost every season 3 episode above the collective classic that is season 1.

Trying to singlehandedly balance it out. I'm a hero.

you're a confound! it's fortunate that the episode ratings are of no consequence what so ever so the damage is minimal.

that reminds me, i think there's A STOOGES PARALLEL, A STOOGES PARALELL, A STOOGES PARALLEL! in this episode. i'll be forced to look it up if no one says anything. that'd make me very cross indeed cause i ... don't want to

I only do it because every season 3 episode is so grossly overrated by the majority. Every week there's a handfull of people that come in here to declare an episode they just saw 5 minutes ago as "TEH BEST EPISODE EVER!!!11ONE!!1" If everyone ranked episodes with more thought behind it, I wouldn't feel that I had a duty to try and even out the scores. I just hate seeing season 1 classics dwelling in the upper 30's/low 40's of the ratings.

[xfoo]

Where do you see the parallel?

Remember that in the boy fights video it was only 2 of them fighting...

But I'm not a stooges expert.

the painters could be said to somewhat resemble the stooges. what michael says about the videos having a big impact on these 3 painters after they mimic gob and michael slapping each other could mean something. i think there's a stooges episode called 3 painters. the ridiculous competition scenarios. gob, buster and michael screaming at lucille, especially when gob screams again when busters fake hand flies at him (narrator: this continued for quite some time) maybe it's marx brothers.. yep.. what we need is an expert

[DidNothingCancel?]

Ah, I was coming at it from completely the wrong direction.

I'd say if more than one scene points at something, it's probably done for a reason.

Influences come from everywhere, and it's only right to pay homage.