#308: Making a Stand

[LickMyLovePump]

"i don't think he(she) knows what he(she) is saying" is a quote from the episode in question

My comment "Who's the he/she in that sentence?" is a quote from The Prison Break-In episode. Nothing more.

......And That's why you never use episode quotes to illustrate the crucial point of your argument

J.Walter.Weatherman



PS: The above is not a quote from AD, or any other show for that matter.

[so's your face]

feel free to relax there champ/princess...

the he/she is used as i can't identify kaijufan's gender based on his/her user-name. i did it again there with you sir/miss. see how unassuming and nonoffensive that is?

before you go on assuming the role of the forum police, you should try, and i really mean it...try, to read someone's entire SENTENCE instead of just 2 words before you let the little red man on your left shoulder convince you to hit enter.

and just to get you caught up, "i don't think he(she) knows what he(she) is saying" is a quote from the episode in question... you should know, you said it's in "another league". so realx, take a chill pill and chase it with a glass of egg-nog, and have yourself a merry little christmas.

Gosh you sure set me straight…but I think you're a little off base. My comment "Who's the he/she in that sentence?" is a quote from The Prison Break-In episode. Nothing more. No malice on my end. The rest of my comment was half-hearted huffing (at best) in response to the comment about someone not liking 'Good Grief'. The reality of the situation is to each his/her own.

sorry, i guess i made a huge mistake... you caught me off guard with the "prison-break in" line when i too was defending the honor of "good grief." "prison break-in" still isn't fully committed to memory yet so forgive me for not picking up on that... d'oh. no malice on my end either, i was just really tired and a bit cantankerous...

...and that's why you don't post comments on 2 hours sleep!

but seriously, enjoy some ann-nog and have a merry christmas... that goes for everyone!

[Blendin Inc.]

I very much liked the music selection in this episode, especially the Yellow Submarine knock-off and the montage music with the various songs from over the course of the series. I also liked the transitional music as of late in this season. Im not so sure that the timing is quite perfect though.

[MadeAHugeMistake]

Did GOB and Steve Holt look like they gained some weight in this episode? Looks like Holt has been getting heavier in each episode that he's in. Maybe it's my imagination.

I've been thinking the same thing about Steve Holt, especially as compared to season one...

[stunned]

Did GOB and Steve Holt look like they gained some weight in this episode? Looks like Holt has been getting heavier in each episode that he's in. Maybe it's my imagination.

I've been thinking the same thing about Steve Holt, especially as compared to season one...

Maybe Will ate a baby.

[ThoseAreBlueToo]

Did GOB and Steve Holt look like they gained some weight in this episode? Looks like Holt has been getting heavier in each episode that he's in. Maybe it's my imagination.

I've been thinking the same thing about Steve Holt, especially as compared to season one...

Maybe Will ate a baby.

Maybe they cirsumvented a few boxes of Krispy Kremes.

[WhoamI]

The actor who plays Steve probably works out.

[tgodd]

haha, tony hale had his real left hand out

[MegamanDS]

just one question..............


what religious think are u talking about with GOB? i dont remember anything about religion in this episode.

btw, i thought it was great with all the lessons at the end.








oh and i loved bob lawblah blog log

[The Joker Magician]

what religious think are u talking about with GOB? i dont remember anything about religion in this episode.

In this episode, he said that he's dating a religious thing. Possibly Eve Holt. That one gets pregnant, it stays pregnant.

[so's your face]

just one question..............


what religious think are u talking about with GOB? i dont remember anything about religion in this episode.

great GOB line(paraphrase): besides, i've got a new Christian girlfriend who's trying get me to turn my life around and go to church with her and i'm trying to get her to renounce God and [spoiler]bleep[/spoiler] me.

[Beamer]

And while I'm on the topic, there have been episodes that have aired out of order. For example, Visiting Ours and Charity Drive were aired in reverse order. I just want to know why it's occasionally done.

Because Fox are idiots. However, let's not forget that sometimes, episodes are also MADE out of order. Production order isn't 100% correct, either. Look at My Mother the Car (Production 108) and In God We Trust (Production 107). In My Mother the Car, Buster and Lucille 2 talk over their misunderstandings, kiss, and end up dating. However, they already ARE dating in In God We Trust, which means that My Mother the Car was meant to go before it, not after it. Sword of Destiny was Production 217, but needs to go before 216 to make sense since Tobias is still Mrs. Featherbottom in that episode, and he stopped it at the end of Meat the Veals. As far as I'm concerned, the DVDs are the only place where the episodes are in their correct order.

I DO think this aired in correct order, though. Think about it:
306 - THE OCEAN WALKER: Michael breaks up with Rita, Tobias still has his hair plugs. He's not completely sick yet, but he DID begin using his wheelchair.
307 - PRISON BREAK: Michael is upset over his break-up with Rita, Tobias is dying from the hair plugs.
308 - MAKING A STAND: No mention of Rita, Tobias's hair plugs are gone, he has bandages on his head (most likely because he's had them removed),
Not to mention that there's very little of Michael in Prison Break, which was good for balancing out the characters after every Season 3 episode before that was Michael-centric. People are operating under the theory that Tobias' hair was burned off at the end of The Ocean Walker, but it simply can NOT make sense, since he still had it in Prison Break-In, which specifically mentions Michael broke up with Rita. If you disregard that theory (which was never even said in the show, by the way), it makes perfect sense.

However, why do people think that George Sr. still being under house arrest is a continuity error? In Prison Break-In, when the warden realised he'd put the wrong person behind bars, George Sr. made an agreement - he'd let Oscar out of prison, and George Sr. would be returned to house arrest without being prosecuted for escaping. I don't see why there's any debate there, seemed clear to me. Also, Gob is almost definitely dating Ann - this explains his comments on the third-place contestant, and how Ann said she met a man. The reason it's still yet to be addressed head-on is:
a) They want to give the fans a chance to figure it out first.
b) Let's face it, it is pretty creepy. We know Ann would be around about George Michael's age since they said in Sad Sack that they're in the same class. George Michael said earlier this season that he was 16 (he was 13 in the pilot, 14 later in Season 1, 15 in Season 2, and I believe he turned 16 in Mr. F - with his birthday and all), so if Ann's in his class, she'd be within less than a year older or younger than him... most likely younger, but that's just going by how small she looks in comparrison to him. Then again, it's always hard to guess someone's age just by their appearance.

Onto another thing someone mentioned: The fact that Gob is revealed to be 35 in this episode, and in Out on a Limb, Buster said he was 32. However, has anyone considered that maybe Buster ISN'T 32? Think about it, if Oscar's his father, maybe Lucille's had to lie about his age to keep his secret (and in Bringing up Buster, George Sr. is under the impression that Buster spent 11 months in the womb)... just throwing that theory out there. Anyway, onto the episode.

I liked it, but it was far from the best. It seemed more like a sequel to Pier Pressure than anything - some jokes were hits, some were misses... my main problem is with the story structure, though. It was very rushed at times, and very little attention was paid on the sub-plots with Lucille's facelift and Tobias/Lindsay's divorce... then again, it seems like they'll probably be continuing over the next few episodes (at least the latter will, anyway - whether or not they pursue Lucille's facelift is anyone's guess). A lot of people complained about the photo montage, I loved it... though it's a shame they didn't cycle All You Need is Smiles into the music tracks for that bit. If they did, I would've just lost it.

Still, it seemed like at times they were trying to accomplish too much in one episode here - I'd have personally liked to have seen more attention paid on the Banana Stand-off story than anything. I felt it had a lot of unused potential, and that alone could've made one great whole-episode plot. Not complaining though, we got to see J. Walter Weatherman return! Unfortunately, I saw every single lesson twist coming here... Oh well, still nice to see him back. Would've been good if they used new flashbacks though instead of the two we've already seen over and over in the show, though.

Overall, a solid episode - good fun, but some missed potential at times. Seemed very rushed though, even on repeat viewings. I'll give it a B... by AD's standards, of course (which is still an A+ in comparrison to other shows ).

This has been another long-ass post by Beamer.

[xfoo]

right

gob dating ann might be a simple throwaway joke, or it's not ann and it's a set up to something we haven't seen yet, or it's still not ann but its still a throwaway joke. no point having a guess and then thinking 'has ad gone too far this time?' cause it doesn't really matter

also i am skeptical of your claimed lack of surprise to the final scenes of this episode.

[WhoamI]

Gob and Ann. Well Gob's characther needs closure and a happy ending. After all he IS the goofball...the joker...The Magician!

[Beamer]

... I thought you were going to do a trick there. Like, a fireball, or something...

Funnily enough though, the idea of Gob dating Ann isn't creeping me out half as much as the idea of Gob dating Lucille 2 was, though.